Podcast – How Do Biodegradable Plastics Benefit Injection Molding?

All right, so we've got a pretty hefty stack of research here all about biodegradable plastics.
Yeah.
And specifically how they're being used in injection molding. I mean, we've got technical papers, industry reports, even a few stories from people who are actually out there designing and manufacturing with this stuff.
That's great. Yeah, it's a really fascinating field. It's a really interesting intersection of, you know, like, cutting edge material science, but also, you know, the very real world challenges of actually making things.
Totally.
So I think we're going to be able to cover a lot of ground here.
Yeah, I'm really excited to dive in and kind of see what are some of the surprises lurking in this research.
Yeah, well, I think one thing that we'll definitely uncover is that, you know, these biodegradable plastics, they're not always, you know, they seem.
Okay.
Like, there's a lot of hype out there.
Right.
But the reality is often a lot more complex.
Yeah, that's one of the questions I had, actually, is, you know, we see these labels everywhere now. Biodegradable this, compostable that. Is it all it's cracked up to be?
Yeah, well, we'll definitely get into that and really sort of, you know, help you understand what's what awesome. What's real, what's not cool.
So let's start with the basics then.
Okay.
When we say biodegradable plastics, what are we actually talking about?
Okay, so biodegradable plastics, they're plastics that are designed to decompose naturally in the environment. Right. Unlike those traditional plastics.
Right.
That we all know and maybe sometimes love.
Yeah.
They can stick around for centuries.
Right.
Biodegradable plastics, they break down.
Yeah.
Into water and carbon dioxide.
Okay.
Which is why they're seen as, you know, a lot more environmentally friendly.
Okay. So it's not just like throwing a banana peel in the compost bin. Right. It's more complicated than that.
Yeah, it is a little bit more complex than that. The breakdown process, it really depends on the specific type of biodegradable plastic you're talking about.
Okay.
So some of them, they rely on those microorganisms that are already existing in the environment to kind of break down those molecular chains.
Okay.
But other types of biodegradable plastics, they're designed to degrade when they're exposed to light or moisture.
Huh. Okay.
And then we're even seeing now some really cutting edge stuff with what are called enzyme catalyzed plastics.
Okay.
And this is where specific enzymes are used to Basically target certain chemical bonds and that accelerates that decomposition process.
Wow. Okay, so there's like a whole science behind this.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's not just magic, even though it might seem like magic to those of us who aren't chemists.
Right, right.
Okay, so it sounds like then understanding the different types of biodegradable plastics is pretty important. Yeah, it is, because it dictates how it breaks down and I'm guessing also how it's used. Can you give us some examples of the different types of biodegradable plastics out there?
Sure. So one of the most common ones that you'll hear about is pla, which stands for color lactic acid.
Okay.
And it's made from renewable resources like corn starch.
Okay.
And you'll often see PLA used in food packaging.
Got it.
Because it can be composted at least in those industrial composting facilities.
Right.
And then another family of these bio based polymers is. Are the PHAs.
PHAs?
Yeah. Polyhydroxyl calcanotes. And they have like different properties and they're being explored for all sorts of different applications, like even medical implants.
Wow.
Because they're biocompatible.
That's amazing.
Yeah. So it's really a diverse field. There's a lot of different options.
Yeah. And it sounds like the material itself then dictates how it breaks down and ultimately where it can be used.
Right.
So I'm guessing that also impacts, you know, all those environmental benefits we hear about.
Yeah, definitely.
What are the key advantages then of using biodegradable plastics?
Well, there are some significant environmental advantages.
Okay.
Especially when you compare them to those traditional plastics.
Right, right.
So first of all, they reduce the amount of waste that's going to landfills.
Right.
Which is, you know, a huge problem.
Yeah.
Globally. Yeah. And then because they decompose naturally, they don't release those harmful pollutants into the environment the way that some traditional plastics can.
Yeah. You know, I'm thinking back to one of the reports we looked at, talked about, you know, the impact of traditional plastic production on water sources.
Oh, yeah.
Near manufacturing plants.
Absolutely.
And it was pretty eye opening.
Yeah, it's definitely a concern.
Yeah.
And biodegradable plastics offer a way to kind of address that. Right. At the source.
Right at the source. Okay.
Yeah. And of course, we can't forget about carbon emissions.
Right.
You know, the production of traditional plastics relies heavily on fossil fuels, whereas biodegradable plastics are often made from these renewable resources.
Right.
So that can potentially reduce our carbon footprint.
So it Seems like from an environmental perspective, biodegradable plastics check a lot of boxes.
They do.
But I know we talked earlier about there being trade offs, so let's get into that. How do these materials actually compare to traditional plastics when we're talking about manufacturing and specifically injection molding?
Yeah. So I think the most fundamental difference is in the raw materials themselves.
Okay, Right.
So traditional plastics are derived from petroleum, which, as we know, is a finite resource. Biodegradable plastics typically are made from renewable resources. Things like cornstarch, sugar cane.
Okay.
Even things like agricultural waste and algae are being explored.
Wow. Okay, so that's a pretty big difference already just in terms of where the materials are coming from.
Yeah, absolutely. It's a. It's a fundamental shift.
Yeah.
From finite resources to renewable resources.
Does that impact the manufacturing process in any way?
It does, yeah.
Okay.
So, you know, traditional plastic manufacturing has been around for decades.
Right.
And those processes have really been optimized for efficiency, for cost effectiveness. With biodegradable plastics, we're often dealing with materials that require more complex processing techniques. For example, that fermentation process that's involved in creating pla. That can be more energy intensive than the straightforward polymerization.
Got it.
That's used for traditional plastics.
So that brings up a big question about energy consumption then, because one of the studies we looked at actually highlighted that, you know, biodegradable plastics may have a higher initial energy footprint.
Yeah. That's true.
Than traditional plastics.
You have to look at the whole picture.
Okay, Right.
So it's essential to analyze the entire life cycle of that product to really understand the full impact.
Yeah.
So while the initial energy consumption for those biodegradable plastics might be higher. Right. We also have to consider, you know, the long term benefits.
Okay.
You know, reduce pollution during production, less waste going to landfills, and the fact that ultimately they're made from those renewable resources.
So it's not just about the energy used to make it.
Right.
It's about the entire impact from, you.
Know, the whole shebang.
Cradle to grave.
Exactly.
The whole life cycle.
Okay. So even if it takes more energy up front, the overall benefits potentially could outweigh that initial cost.
Right.
Okay. But let's dig into the specifics of those manufacturing processes a bit more.
Okay.
What are some of the challenges then of actually using these biodegradable plastics in injection molding?
So one of the biggest challenges is material stability and consistency.
Okay.
Biodegradable plastics, they can be a little.
Bit more sensitive to things like temperature and moisture compared to those traditional Plastics.
Okay.
And that sensitivity can make it tricky to achieve that precise control that you need for injection molding, where you're working with these molten materials under high pressure.
Yeah, I can imagine that that's a bit of a headache for manufacturers who are used to working with something a lot more predictable.
Yeah. It's a constant balancing act between biodegradability and durability.
Right. Because you need it to break down eventually, but it also needs to perform while it's being used.
Exactly. It's like imagine trying to build a sandcastle on a windy beach.
Okay.
Right. You need that sand to hold its shape, but you also want it to eventually, you know, return to the beach. Return to the beach, Right.
Yeah. That's a great analogy.
Thanks.
So I'm guessing those challenges aren't just limited to the material properties themselves, though.
You're right.
There's more.
There's more. So there are also challenges related to the manufacturing processes.
Okay.
And the equipment. So, for example, existing injection molding machinery might not be compatible with certain biodegradable materials.
Oh, wow.
They might require different temperatures, different pressures, even specialized molds.
So manufacturers might need to invest in, like, all new equipment then.
Potentially. Yeah.
Or modify their existing processes, which could be a pretty big barrier. It can be to adoption.
Yeah, definitely.
And speaking of barriers, let's talk about cost.
Okay.
Because we've seen that biodegradable plastics are generally more expensive than traditional plastics. Is that just because they're newer, or are there other factors at play?
There are definitely other factors at play.
Okay.
So the raw materials themselves are often more expensive.
Right.
And as we talked about, those production processes can be more complex, more energy intensive. And then there's the issue of scale.
Okay.
Right. So the demand for biodegradable plastics is still relatively small compared to those traditional plastics.
Yeah.
So the economies of scale haven't really kicked in yet.
So it's that classic chicken and egg situation.
Yeah, exactly.
Higher costs limit demand, but lower demand keeps the costs high.
Exactly.
Okay, so how do we break out of that cycle, then?
Well, one approach is to focus on alternative feedstocks.
Okay.
So instead of relying solely on food crops like corn or sugar cane, researchers are looking at using things like agricultural waste, algae, even captured carbon dioxide.
Wow.
To create those biodegradable plastics.
So turning waste into a valuable resource.
Exactly.
That's amazing.
Yeah. It's a double win for the environment and for the economy.
Totally. And I'm guessing that, you know, consumer demand plays a role here too.
Oh, absolutely.
Right. The more people are choosing Products made with these materials, the more companies are going to invest in developing them.
Supply and demand, right?
Exactly.
Yeah.
So it's a collective effort then?
It is.
Consumers, manufacturers, even policymakers all have a role to play in making this a more viable option.
Yeah, I think that's a really important point.
Okay. This has been an incredibly insightful conversation so far.
Yeah.
We've covered a lot of ground.
We have.
From the science behind biodegradation to the challenges of actually manufacturing with these materials.
Right.
But I'm curious to hear more about the solutions and the innovations that are driving this field forward. What are some of the most promising developments that you're seeing?
Okay, well, let's get into that one area. I think where we're seeing some really amazing innovation is in the development of new types of biodegradable plastics that have enhanced properties.
Okay, so like, what kind of properties are we talking about here?
Well, for example, researchers are working on creating biodegradable plastics that are stronger, more durable, more resistant to heat and moisture.
So basically addressing some of those challenges that we talked about earlier with making them more robust so that they can actually be used in these real world applications.
Exactly. And the cool thing is these advancements aren't just happening in the lab. We're starting to see these new materials being used in actual products.
Okay, like what?
So, for instance, there are companies now that are producing biodegradable plastic cutlery.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's just as strong and durable as traditional plastic cutlery.
Okay.
But it can be composted after use.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So are we seeing then biodegradable plastics being used in more demanding applications now?
Absolutely.
Like what kind of things?
Well, think about the automotive industry, for example.
Yeah.
So we're starting to see biodegradable plastics being used for interior components.
Really?
Like door panels, dashboards, even seating.
So, like those parts that can be molded into those complex shapes.
Exactly.
Just like traditional plastics.
Yeah.
But with the added benefit of being environmentally friendly.
Right.
I never would have thought about biodegradable plastics being used in cars.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
That's really cool.
What about packaging? Because I feel like that's an obvious application. It is, but are there any new innovations happening in that area?
Oh, yeah, there's tons of innovation happening in packaging.
Okay.
One really interesting trend is the use of plant based coatings.
Okay.
To improve the barrier properties of biodegradable plastics.
So what does that mean?
So this is really important for things like food packaging.
Okay.
Where you need to prevent Oxygen and moisture from getting in and spoiling the food. Got it.
Okay.
Right. So it's not just about the plastic itself. It's also about how you can kind of enhance its functionality.
Right. Using other sustainable materials.
Exactly.
Okay, cool. And are we seeing any innovations in the way that this packaging is designed?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Okay.
So some companies are creating packaging that's designed to be easily disassembled and composted.
So making it easier for consumers than to actually dispose of it properly.
Exactly. Yeah. Because we talked before about the need for better infrastructure for composting and recycling.
Yeah. So if we can make the packaging itself more compostable.
Right.
Then that's a huge step in the right direction.
Exactly.
Okay. What about medical applications? Oh, yeah, because we touched on that a little bit before.
Yeah, yeah.
But are there any other, like, mind blowing possibilities in that area?
Oh, yeah, there's tons.
Okay.
It's a really exciting field.
I'm thinking back to that example you gave of like biodegradable implants and sutures.
Yeah. The idea that these materials can just safely dissolve inside the body.
It's amazing.
Right after they've served their purpose. It's incredible.
Yeah, it's a total game changer for the medical field. Yeah. And the innovations go way beyond just implants and sutures.
Like what?
So researchers are now developing things like biodegradable stents to open up blocked arteries.
Okay.
Biodegradable bone plates and screws for fracture fixation, Even biodegradable scaffolds for tissue regeneration.
That's like science fiction.
It is, yeah.
It's amazing.
So it's really exciting to see what's happening in that field.
But how do they ensure.
Yeah, that's a good question.
That these materials break down at the right time and in the right way inside the body.
That's a really critical consideration and it's one of the main focuses of research in this area.
Okay.
So scientists are working on designing these biodegradable plastics that have very specific degradation rates that are tailored to the needs of that application.
So like, they can kind of program it.
Exactly.
To degrade on demand?
Pretty much, yeah.
That's amazing. And so is this technology being applied to other fields as well?
Yeah, it is. There's growing interest in using biodegradable plastics for agricultural purposes.
Like what?
So you've probably heard of biodegradable mulch films.
Yeah, yeah, I have.
Right. That help to control weeds and retain moisture in the soil.
Right.
And those films are a great example of a closed loop System.
Okay.
Right. They serve their purpose during the growing season, and then they break down naturally and enrich the soil as they decompose.
So it's like nature's recycling program.
Exactly.
Love that.
Yeah.
Okay, so speaking of recycling, then.
Yeah.
What about the recyclability of biodegradable plastics?
That's a good question.
Is that even a possibility?
It's complicated.
Okay.
So some types of biodegradable plastics can be recycled.
Okay.
But not all of them. It depends on the specific material and the recycling infrastructure that's available.
So just because it says biodegradable on the label doesn't necessarily mean that it can be recycled.
Exactly.
Okay.
And I think this highlights the need for clear labeling and consumer education.
Right.
Because there's a lot of confusion.
There is.
Around these terms.
Yeah. Like biodegradable, compostable, recyclable. It can get confusing.
It can.
Okay. So we really need to make sure then, that people understand what these terms mean and how to properly dispose of different types of plastics.
Yep.
Okay. But even with those challenges, it seems like the potential benefits here. They are huge. Are enormous. We've talked about the environmental advantages, the innovations in materials and design, and these exciting applications across all these different industries.
Yeah. It's amazing.
But what about the economics of all of this? You know, we know that biodegradable plastics are currently more expensive.
They aren't.
Than traditional plastics. So how can we make them more cost competitive?
Yeah. That's the key. Right. To widespread adoption.
Yeah. How do we get the price down?
Yeah. So there are several strategies that are being explored to address this challenge. So one approach is to focus on economies of scale.
Okay.
Right. So as the demand for biodegradable plastics grows and production volumes increase.
Yeah.
The cost per unit will naturally come down.
So it's a matter of getting those production numbers up.
Exactly.
Okay.
And that ties back to what we talked about before with consumer demand.
Right. So the more people demand it.
Yeah.
The more companies will produce it.
Exactly.
The price will come down.
Right.
Okay. So it's a collective effort. Again, it is consumers, manufacturers, policymakers, everybody working together. But are there other ways to make these materials more cost effective?
Yeah, definitely.
Beyond just increasing production.
So another promising area is the development of alternative feedstocks.
Ah. Okay.
So right now, a lot of biodegradable plastics are made from food crops.
Right.
Corn, sugarcane, corn, sugar cane, all that. But there's a growing interest in using non food sources. Things like agricultural waste, algae, even captured carbon dioxide.
Wow. Okay.
To create these biodegradable plastics.
So that addresses those concerns, then, about using food crops for plastic production and potentially opens up new avenues for cost savings.
Yep.
Okay.
And what about the production processes themselves?
Yeah. So we're also seeing significant advancements there in terms of making those production processes more efficient and less energy intensive.
So less energy means less cost.
Exactly.
Okay.
For example, researchers are developing new catalysts.
That can speed up the production of biodegradable plastics.
Okay.
Which reduces the energy consumption and the cost.
Okay, so it sounds like it's a combination of factors, then. Is increased demand, alternative feedstocks, more efficient production, all working together to try to bring those costs down and make this a more viable option. Okay. But beyond the economics.
Yeah.
There's another aspect I think we need to consider here.
Okay.
You know we've talked a lot about the end of life.
Right.
Of these materials. Composting, recycling, biodegradation.
Yeah.
But what about the beginning.
Good point.
Of their life cycle?
Yeah.
What are the environmental impacts of producing those raw materials?
Yeah.
That's a crucial question for biodegradable plastics.
And it's one that's often overlooked.
Right.
So even though biodegradable plastics are made from renewable resources, there are still environmental impacts associated with growing those resources, transporting them, and processing them into the raw materials for plastic production.
So it's not just about the plastic itself. It's about the whole supply chain.
The whole supply chain, exactly.
That's a really good point.
Yeah. And I think that's why it's so important to take a holistic view of sustainability when you're assessing the environmental impact of these biodegradable plastics.
Okay. So we really need to consider the whole life cycle, then. The whole life cycle, from raw materials to disposal, to make sure that we're actually making sustainable choices.
Right.
Okay. So it's not enough to just slap a biodegradable label on something and call it a day.
Exactly. We need to be mindful of that.
Whole process, and we need to be constantly innovating and improving.
Absolutely. Because this field is still relatively young.
Okay.
And there's a lot of room for improvement.
Okay. This has been a really incredible deep dive so far.
It has.
We've explored the science, the challenges, the innovations, the economic considerations of biodegradable plastics.
We've covered a lot of ground, but.
There'S one final thing I kind of want to touch on before we wrap up.
Yeah.
And it's something that's really close to my heart.
Okay.
And that's the role of design.
Oh, yeah.
In all of this.
Knew you'd bring it back to design.
Of course.
It's such a crucial element.
Yeah.
You know, to really realize the full potential of these biodegradable plastics.
It's not just about the science then, Right. It's not just about finding those technical solutions. It's also about designing products that are aesthetically pleasing, functional, and truly sustainable from the ground up.
Exactly.
And we've seen glimpses of this in some of the examples we've talked about. You know, like those biodegradable implants. Not just functional, they're also, like, incredibly elegant.
Yeah. It's like nature itself. And their simplicity is inspiring this new wave of design thinking.
And that's what I think is so exciting because we're not just talking about swapping out one material for another. We we're talking about reimagining how we make things and how we use products in a way that actually works with the environment. So we need to move away from that linear take, make, dispose model and embrace this more circular approach where products are designed with their end of life from the beginning in mind. Right from the start.
Yeah, I completely agree.
So we need to think about how products can be disassembled, recycled.
Right.
Posted at the end of their useful life.
We need to design for biodegradability.
Right.
Right from the start.
And we need to consider the aesthetics too.
Absolutely right.
Just because something is biodegradable doesn't mean it has to look boring.
Exactly.
Or utilitarian.
Yeah. We can design products that are both sustainable and beautiful.
Yeah. I love that.
I think there's a real opportunity here.
Yeah.
To create like a new aesthetic that's rooted in sustainability.
Yeah. An aesthetic that celebrates the natural world and the beauty of these materials.
Exactly.
I love that idea. So it's really about creating a new paradigm then for design. It is where sustainability isn't just an afterthought, it's a core part of the creative process.
It should be baked in, Right?
Exactly. So how do we actually make that happen?
That's the million dollar question.
How do we encourage designers to embrace this new way of thinking?
Well, I think it starts with education.
Okay.
We need to teach designers about the properties and the possibilities of these biodegradable.
Materials and expose them to what's out there, what's possible.
Yeah. We need to inspire them to think outside the box.
And we need to create a supportive ecosystem. Right. So manufacturers need to be willing to experiment.
Absolutely.
Consumers need to demand more sustainable products, and policymakers need to incentivize the development of these Materials.
Absolutely.
So it's a collaborative effort and a shift in mindset from all the stakeholders.
For sure.
All right. This has been such an enlightening conversation.
Yeah, it has.
We've covered so much ground.
We have.
From the science of biodegradation to the art of design.
Yeah.
But before we wrap things up, I want to come back to you, the listener.
Right.
You know, we've explored all this information about biodegradable plastics, but now it's time to apply that knowledge to your own context.
Think about your work, your interests, your daily life.
Yeah. How can this knowledge about biodegradable plastics inform your decisions, whether you're a designer.
A manufacturer, a consumer, or simply someone who cares about the environment.
Right.
We all have a role to play.
We do.
In creating a more sustainable future. Wow. I mean, this deep dive has really flown by.
It has.
We've covered a lot of ground, huh?
Yeah, we have. We really have.
From the science to the challenges, the innovations.
Yeah. All of it.
Even the economic considerations of these biodegradable plastics.
It's been a whirlwind.
It has. So as we kind of, like zoom out now and connect all the dots, what are some of those key takeaways you hope listeners will remember?
I think the biggest one for me is that biodegradable plastics really represent a paradigm shift in how we think about materials and manufacturing.
Okay. So it's not just about replacing one type of plastic with another.
It's bigger than that. It's about reimagining the entire life cycle.
Of a product from the beginning to the end. Yeah. From sourcing those sustainable raw materials to designing for disassembly and biodegradation.
Right.
Like, every step of that process needs to be reevaluated.
Yeah.
Through this lens of sustainability.
And that takes a collective effort.
It does.
Right. From everybody.
Yeah. Consumers, designers, policymakers.
We all have a role to play.
We all have to be part of this.
Okay, so consumers.
Yeah.
How can they get involved?
Well, they can vote with their wallets.
Okay.
Right. They can support those companies that are prioritizing sustainable practices.
Okay. So look for those companies that are doing the right thing.
Exactly. And then manufacturers, they can invest in R and D. Right. And explore those new materials and production processes.
So really pushing the boundaries there.
Exactly. And designers, they can push the boundaries of creativity, Finding innovative ways.
Yeah.
To incorporate those biodegradable plastics into functional and beautiful products.
Beautiful and functional.
Exactly. And then policymakers, they can create a supportive environment through regulations and incentives that encourage those sustainable choices.
So Everybody has a part to play.
Everybody's gotta be involved.
Now, I think it's important to acknowledge that biodegradable plastics are. Aren't a silver bullet solution. Right, right. There are still challenges.
Yeah, for sure. Like we talked about improving that material performance and scaling production to bring those costs down.
Right. It's not perfect yet.
It's not a perfect solution yet. But the potential is there.
Absolutely.
And the momentum is building.
I think.
So I'm really excited personally about the potential for these plastics to address some of those really big environmental problems.
Absolutely.
You know, plastic pollution.
Yeah. Climate change, Huge issues. Huge, huge issues.
Yeah. And biodegradable plastics could play.
Yeah.
A major role in solving those.
Imagine a world where plastic waste is no longer a threat to our oceans.
It's a beautiful thought.
Yeah.
Imagine a world where we can create products that actually nourish the environment instead of polluting it. Exactly. That's the vision. That's the vision we're working toward.
That's good vision.
And biodegradable plastics are a critical part of.
Yeah.
Of making that vision a reality.
Yeah. Okay, so as we wrap up this deep dive.
Right.
I want to leave you with a question.
Okay.
Knowing what you now know about these biodegradable plastics, what actions can you take to contribute to a more sustainable future?
Good question.
Whether it's making those conscious choices as a consumer, advocating for policy changes, or even exploring those new career paths.
Yeah.
We each have the power to make a difference.
We do.
Thanks for joining us for this deep dive into the world of biodegradable plastics. It's a fascinating field, and as we've seen, it's constantly evolving. So stay curious, stay informed, and most importantly, stay engaged. The future of our planet depends on it.
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